Drawing by Martin of Anna Green

Transcript of 38th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Anna Green, Thursday, April 17, 1997 at 4:00 pm.

Ms. Green: Hello, Doctor. Sorry I'm so late.
Dr. Balis: Hello, Anna. Could you please call next time?
Ms. Green: I almost didn't show up today.
Dr. Balis: Why? Are you hurt? If that son of a bitch...you don't have to explain what happened to a doctor when you seek medical help. You don't have to feel embarrassed. Just go in and let your doctor look at your wounds.
Ms. Green: Doctor, relax. I didn't do anything yet.
Dr. Balis: You didn't? But you said last time that...
Ms. Green: I just said that I was going to meet him.
Dr. Balis: So you didn't...
Ms. Green: Get whipped?
Dr. Balis: Did you?
Ms. Green: No. Kathy introduced me to Gray last Sunday, just as I described--during the S&M flea-market. He seems like a very nice guy.
Dr. Balis: Hmm.
Ms. Green: No, really. He is a thirty-two-year-old graduate student at Berkeley.
Dr. Balis: What is he studying?
Ms. Green: I think he is an anthropology student.
Dr. Balis: Perfect.
Ms. Green: Doctor, that's why I didn't think it was a good idea to come today.
Dr. Balis: Why?
Ms. Green: Your attitude! You're obviously against this whole thing. You're clearly over-reacting.
Dr. Balis: I'm sorry, Anna. I just imagined you hurt--you're right. I did over-react. I won't let it happen again. Now do you want to tell me about your meeting with Gray?
Ms. Green: That's better. Well, let me see. He is very good-looking. That sort of surprised me a bit.
Dr. Balis: Why? Did you expect someone ugly?
Ms. Green: No, not ugly. Just sort of someone unimpressive, you know what I mean? And Gray is certainly impressive looking.
Dr. Balis: You said that he was nice. Did you have an opportunity to talk with him?
Ms. Green: The three of us when out to lunch together and talked.
Dr. Balis: Kathy went with you?
Ms. Green: Yes. Gray has a very commanding presence. I was even intimidated by him a bit at first. Kathy came along to act as a social catalyst of sorts.
Dr. Balis: That's very nice of Kathy. So what's so commanding about Gray? His personality?
Ms. Green: It's his whole way of being--his mannerisms, his style, his way of expressing himself. You feel like he is always in control of the situation. I could see how women would surrender themselves to him.
Dr. Balis: Do you feel like surrendering yourself to Gray?
Ms. Green: I'm involved, Doctor. All I'm asking Gray to do is to introduce me to what it's like being a bottom in an S&M relationship. I'm not interested in him per se--just in his talents and his ability to show me the secret of pleasure from pain. It's an educational thing.
Dr. Balis: Hmm. Did you tell Martin about Gray?
Ms. Green: I told him that a friend of mine had found someone appropriate for me. I didn't think it was a good idea to get into details.
Dr. Balis: Why not? Don't you have Martin's approval to get whipped by a strange man?
Ms. Green: Gray is no longer a stranger to me. I interviewed him and I think he is going to be a very good teacher. There is no reason why my S&M teacher should be unattractive or sexually unappealing to me, is there? If I'm going to go through the experience of S&M erotica, it might as well be with someone I find stimulating in that way.
Dr. Balis: So you're attracted to Gray?
Ms. Green: You can say that.
Dr. Balis: And you don't want to tell Martin about Gray because of the sexual attraction you feel for Gray, right?
Ms. Green: Why torture the man? I'm doing all this for our benefit--mine and Martin's. He knows that. Martin is being very supportive of me on this issue. And by the way...
Dr. Balis: Yes?
Ms. Green: Gray is very supportive too.
Dr. Balis: Really?
Ms. Green: Kathy and I explained the whole situation to him over lunch. We talked about Martin and what he is into. Then I tried to convey to Gray why I was interested in his services. You know, this guy really took the time to talk to us and to understand my needs and wishes.
Dr. Balis: That's nice.
Ms. Green: Well, it was. Gray didn't have to do any of it. When he gives lessons at the S&M techniques seminars, there are dozens of people who line up to volunteer to be his bottom for the demonstrations. This guy has tons of people just dying to be whipped by him. I really do think that it was nice of Gray to do this for me.
Dr. Balis: Uh huh. And so when is Gray going to privately tutor you in the arts of S&M?
Ms. Green: Tomorrow night, after work. I'll meet him over at his place at around 9 o'clock.
Dr. Balis: Why his place?
Ms. Green: Because he has a dungeon, of course! Did you think we were going to do it over at my apartment? What would the neighbors think?
Dr. Balis: That you brought home a nice, educated boy. And good-looking too.
Ms. Green: Doctor!
Dr. Balis: Hmm?
Ms. Green: You're doing it again--the ironic stuff designed to make me change my mind. Well, I'm not going to.
Dr. Balis: I wish you would give it a lot of thought.
Ms. Green: Do you think I've been thinking of something else this week? If you were going to be initiated into the pleasures of sexual pain, would you be thinking about whether you paid your bills this month? Or something equally mundane?
Dr. Balis: Fortunately, I'm not faced with the prospect of being whipped tomorrow.
Ms. Green: It's not like some dreaded horror that's weighing on my mind either.
Dr. Balis: Good. Then you'll have a very good night's sleep tonight.
Ms. Green: I'll try! But I am a little excited.
Dr. Balis: Look, since I clearly can't change your mind...
Ms. Green: Doctor, please! Stop being so angry with me. I'll be all right. It's not like I'm setting myself up to be attacked in a blind alley or something. I can always make him stop. Please don't worry.
Dr. Balis: I...
Ms. Green: I know the thought of me being whipped will be weighing heavily on your mind. And I really appreciate it. I can't tell you just how much it means to me, in fact.
Dr. Balis: Will you call me if anything goes wrong?
Ms. Green: Absolutely. And I even promise to seek medical help, if I feel the necessity.
Dr. Balis: Okay then, I'll see you next week. Good luck tomorrow, Anna. I hope you find what you're looking for.
Ms. Green: I will. And I'll tell you all about it soon. I promise. See you next week, Doctor.
Dr. Balis: Goodbye, Anna.
Ms. Green: Oh, I almost forgot. Here is another one of Martin's masterpieces.
Dr. Balis: Oh look. It has a head.
Ms. Green: I thought you'd like it.
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