Transcript of 49th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Anna Green, Thursday, July 24, 1997 at 4:00 pm.

Dr. Balis: Hello, Anna. I'm sorry for missing last week.
Ms. Green: Hello, Doctor Balis. I got a phone call from your service saying that you were going out of town and wouldn't be able to meet with me last week. I missed you.
Dr. Balis: How's...
Ms. Green: So where were you, Doctor Balis? Was it business or pleasure?
Dr. Balis: It was personal.
Ms. Green: Can't talk about it, huh?
Dr. Balis: No, I...
Ms. Green: Okay, okay. I'll try not to get jealous.
Dr. Balis: Anna...
Ms. Green: That's okay, I understand.
Dr. Balis: Anna, it was my father. He was sick, but he's better now.
Ms. Green: Oh, I'm sorry. Do you want to talk about it?
Dr. Balis: No, thank you.
Ms. Green: As you wish. So let's talk about my week.
Dr. Balis: Is there something in particular or...
Ms. Green: Let me see, there are my parents--they've been calling me every day to check up on Martin and me. Then there's Kathy.
Dr. Balis: How is Kathy?
Ms. Green: You should ask Martin. He's been hanging out with her every day for the past week.
Dr. Balis: I didn't know that they'd met. Wasn't Kathy unwilling to even be introduced to Martin?
Ms. Green: She was when I was asking her. But Martin has charms that I apparently lack.
Dr. Balis: So why is Martin socializing with Kathy?
Ms. Green: He gave me a long lecture about how difficult it is to make and keep good friends. He told me that he thought Kathy was a good friend to me despite trying to damage our relationship over the Fourth of July weekend. So Martin went over to her bookstore and talked his way into becoming friends with Kathy. Can you believe it? The guy is smooth.
Dr. Balis: How do you feel about that?
Ms. Green: I don't really know yet. I'm really mad at Kathy. I don't know how long it will take me now to convince my parents that everything is normal. And who knows? For the rest of our lives, they might harbor suspicions that Martin is a pervert. I didn't need this. I have my own worries about our relationship, thank you.
Dr. Balis: But Martin is trying to patch things up between you and Kathy?
Ms. Green: If he is, he hasn't done it yet. So far it's been all about him and Kathy spending time together talking.
Dr. Balis: What do they talk about?
Ms. Green: Martin says that this is yet another way for him to get to know me. I guess so. But I wish he'd just concentrate on talking to me.
Dr. Balis: So you do feel jealous of the time Martin and Kathy spend together.
Ms. Green: Not really jealous. I don't know. I feel excluded somehow. And I'm not sure I like them talking about me all this time. I do like them both, and what they think of me is very important to me.
Dr. Balis: Hmm.
Ms. Green: And if they become friends, how could I talk to them about my problems and feelings relating to them? Before, I could call Kathy and talk to her about Martin. And I could discuss Kathy's outrageous meddling with Martin. But if they become friends...I'm just not sure I'm ready to share in this way.
Dr. Balis: But you wanted Kathy to become friends with Martin, remember? You didn't want her to be upset or feel neglected when you were with Martin.
Ms. Green: That's not exactly what I wanted, Doctor. I wanted Kathy to be friends with Martin only through me, not independent of me. You see the difference?
Dr. Balis: I do.
Ms. Green: At least for a while, until I get more comfortable with Martin. Things are so uncertain with us. We're still not sure we can make this work.
Dr. Balis: Why don't we talk about that. What works in your relationship with Martin and what doesn't?
Ms. Green: Well, first of all, there are a lot of things that work. We like the same things. It's really uncanny just how much our tastes in music, movies, books, and food match. We went to see "Hercules," and we both loved it. I know that Caren wants to go see it, but Greg said that there's no way he's going to a Disney thing until he has to, meaning when he has kids. So things are really perfect with Martin. At least as far as all of that is concerned. And my parents liked him--I'm sure they'll get over the whatever it is that Kathy told them about Martin. And Martin is very smart. I really like that. We can talk about things and he's always able to tell me some new fact or something on almost any subject. And he's very nice about it--he doesn't rub it in. Some men would Bill, for example. He would always try to impress me with how much he knew. But Martin is not like that.
Dr. Balis: That's good.
Ms. Green: Yeah, that's really good. But...
Dr. Balis: What?
Ms. Green: Every once in while Martin will do something that's completely alien to me. And I can see that it's the most natural and normal thing in the world to him. But for's like a rough spot on the surface of a toilet seat--sure you could ignore it, but you think about it every time you're just about ready to sit on it. You know?
Dr. Balis: I think so.
Ms. Green: And when these things happen, I just feel like my happiness stumbles and I worry that I won't be able to take it all in the long run.
Dr. Balis: Can you describe some of these stumbling blocks in your relationship?
Ms. Green: Well, Kathy's one. What is he doing with her? I'll make up with her when I'm good and ready. I don't need for Martin to run a diplomatic mission.
Dr. Balis: Are there other things?
Ms. Green: I got up one night, and Martin wasn't in bed with me.
Dr. Balis: Are you sleeping together?
Ms. Green: Yes, but that's all we're doing. No sex, Doctor, of any kind.
Dr. Balis: Hmm.
Ms. Green: So I get up, and he's not there. I figured that he went to the bathroom or something, and since I was up, I figured that I would go too. But he's not there. I look around--I have a studio apartment--and I see light from under the door of my walk-in closet. I opened it. There was Martin lying on the closet floor naked with my shoes piled all over him, masturbating.
Dr. Balis: What did you do?
Ms. Green: I closed the door and went to bed. What should have I done, Doctor? Join him? Shoes are just not my thing. Or the other day, we were sitting in a coffee house having breakfast. I had a jelly donut and some of the jelly leaked out and dripped onto my shoe. Without skipping a beat, Martin just bent down and with one motion licked it off. I was frozen with embarrassment. But the way he did it, I don't even think anyone noticed. But it was a sneaker, for god's sake!
Dr. Balis: Did you tell Martin that you didn't like that?
Ms. Green: I couldn't.
Dr. Balis: Why not?
Ms. Green: Because he was holding my hand telling me how much pleasure I allow him and what a good mistress I am to him.
Dr. Balis: Are there any other mistress/slave behaviors?
Ms. Green: Sure. Every time I take a shower, Martin turns into a shower slave boy. He rubs my back, washes my hair, towels me dry--or licks me dry depending on the area and my mood--helps me get dressed, picks out my clothes. And don't get me wrong, there are times when I'm into this too.
Dr. Balis: But?
Ms. Green: Just not every day. There's just so much licking my toes can stand, you know?
Dr. Balis: Did you talk to Martin about that?
Ms. Green: Sort of.
Dr. Balis: What do you mean sort of?
Ms. Green: I just don't want to ruin it, Doctor. I like Martin. He's a bit strange, but I like him. And I really really want this to work. I'm tired of going from one failed relationship to another. I want to make a stand and try as hard as I can to succeed.
Dr. Balis: I don't think...
Ms. Green: I know that you're against Martin, Doctor. But for all his faults, Martin's the nicest and most loving man I've ever been with.
Dr. Balis: Sometimes that's just not enough, Anna.
Ms. Green: I know. But I want to try, Doctor. And when I come across something that I just can't live with...well, we'll see what will happen then, won't we?
Dr. Balis: Anna...
Ms. Green: Please, Doctor, don't. I want to feel free to tell you everything. So please don't be too negative about Martin and me. Okay?
Dr. Balis: But Anna...
Ms. Green: Please, Doctor?
Dr. Balis: Okay. Our time is up for today. Next Thursday?
Ms. Green: I'll come in next week at our usual time.
Dr. Balis: Okay. I'll see you then. Have a good week, Anna.
Ms. Green: Goodbye, Doctor Balis.
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