Transcript of 59th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Anna Green, Thursday, October 23, 1997 at 4:00 pm.

Dr. Balis: Hello, Anna.
Ms. Green: Sorry about last week, Doctor.
Dr. Balis: That's all right. Is Kathy back?
Ms. Green: Yeah. But she stayed with her aunt for an extra couple of days. She had the flu, but I guess at that age...she's better now.
Dr. Balis: I'm glad to hear that. So, you started to tell me on the phone how you were looking forward to spending a few days alone--just you and Martin. Was it is as different as you expected?
Ms. Green: It was different. Most of the difference was probably more due to working at Kathy's store than from just being alone with Martin. We worked so much last week that we hardly had any time left to be alone. When we'd finally get home, all we wanted to do was sleep. I think Kathy was horrified when she saw an empty refrigerator and piles of laundry. We didn't eat a single meal other than coffee at home. But our schedules were wild--we'd leave early in the morning to get to the office by at least nine, then work hard to get out of there by five or six. And we had to cover at the store every night until ten or eleven. Friday and Saturday until midnight. It was an insane week.
Dr. Balis: What about all the rest of the people who work at the store? Does Kathy always work so late?
Ms. Green: Oh, no. The regulars had to cover the morning and day shifts which Martin and I could not.
Dr. Balis: I see.
Ms. Green: But we did manage to have some fun.
Dr. Balis: Oh?
Ms. Green: Well, the first night was probably the best.
Dr. Balis: Last Thursday?
Ms. Green: Yes. First of all, Martin didn't show up there until eight--his department had a late meeting or something. I had to fumble around to try and figure out the register. Finally, one of the customers came to my assistance and helped me do the sales. People who are into strange and weird sex are usually very nice. I guess they get all their kicks out in other ways. And all the regular customers were very concerned about Kathy and asked me to say hello to her. It was very nice.
Dr. Balis: The same customers go to the store several times a week?
Ms. Green: We rent out some equipment and tapes.
Dr. Balis: I see.
Ms. Green: But we get a fair number of first timers. When Martin finally got there that first day, I had an elderly couple--tourists, I think--who wanted to purchase a whole bunch of stuff--handcuffs, paddles, masks, some video tapes. I had to teach the man how to tie a leather corset on his wife. I guess you couldn't get this kind of stuff where they were from.
Dr. Balis: Maybe not.
Ms. Green: So when Martin got to the store, I had this couple and a few others browsing the shelves. But instead of getting behind the counter with me, Martin pretended that he didn't know me and that he was just someone coming in off the street. It was hilarious.
Dr. Balis: What was?
Ms. Green: Martin went from shelf to shelf and kept picking up stuff and asking me what it was used for and whether it was good to lick. And he was totally getting into his bottom space--he constantly asked my permission to do the simplest things--"May I touch this, Miss? May I ask a question, Miss? May I try this, Miss?" And the way he said "Miss" was clearly meant to be "Mistress." So we went around the store together, and I demonstrated all the paddles on him. And Martin kept saying, "Thank you, Miss." Finally, we had a crowd of spectators at the store. Martin was on his hands and knees in front of me licking my shoes. It was wild.
Dr. Balis: Hmm.
Ms. Green: He was my masochistic customer, and I was his shop girl mistress. We kept this up for hours. And this little old lady wanted to try out her new paddle on Martin as well.
Dr. Balis: Did he let her?
Ms. Green: Of course. She was such a sweet little thing, although Martin did say she had a heavy hand.
Dr. Balis: I see.
Ms. Green: So our little performance lasted all evening. At one point, I sent Martin out to get some food--which he did completely in character.
Dr. Balis: In character--by that do you mean Martin was...
Ms. Green: He was playing a masochist.
Dr. Balis: So you consider that a performance?
Ms. Green: Well, it is, sort of. I know it's a bit more than that. But Martin can play a normal person, too, and he does every day in the office. He's never once licked my shoes while we were at work.
Dr. Balis: That's good.
Ms. Green: He does send me some very graphic but also very cryptic e-mail messages. But we are very careful not to let on as to our sex play preferences at work. That would be stupid.
Dr. Balis: I agree. What you do in private should stay your own business.
Ms. Green: Right. But at the store...well, that was different. There was this strange sense of freedom.
Dr. Balis: What do you mean?
Ms. Green: We were free to act and play out our fantasies in there. Even though it was a public space, we felt anonymous enough to lose our inhibitions. The people who witnessed our games didn't find them perverted. I mean it's a sex store. They enjoyed them and even participated to a limited degree.
Dr. Balis: So you did this more than just the first night?
Ms. Green: We did it every night.
Dr. Balis: Were you always a dominatrix store owner?
Ms. Green: No. We did that a few times. But we also played with having Martin run the store and I was a bitch from hell customer. But in both scenarios--when I was a customer and when I was the shop keeper--I had a couple of men who wanted me to order and push them around.
Dr. Balis: Did you like that?
Ms. Green: It was okay as long as the line wasn't crossed.
Dr. Balis: Hmm?
Ms. Green: What mostly happened was that customers wanted to be ordered to buy certain items. And that was cool with me. Some even insisted on being on their knees the entire time they were shopping at the store. That was fine, too. It's when things got more sexual that I drew the line.
Dr. Balis: Maybe you should explain a bit.
Ms. Green: One guy tried on this stupid little leather thing and instead of just doing it the way you're supposed to do it--over the clothes and in the fitting room--he came out into the store wearing just that.
Dr. Balis: What did you do?
Ms. Green: I told him that he went over the line.
Dr. Balis: That was enough?
Ms. Green: Yeah. He was very apologetic. He got dressed and purchased the leather thing and left.
Dr. Balis: Hmm.
Ms. Green: Mostly, people were very cautious. After all, this is a public place--anyone could walk in at any moment. Doing little things that get your adrenaline flowing but could be terminated at the drop of a hat is one thing. But the other didn't really happen all that much.
Dr. Balis: It sounds like you had a good time running Kathy's store in her absence.
Ms. Green: Kathy said that we had too good of a time. She said that now people would be expecting these kind of performances all the time.
Dr. Balis: I see.
Ms. Green: Kathy always runs the store in a sort of neutral space. She makes it easy for anyone to ask her questions, and she certainly knows a lot. That's how I met her. Who knew that this little Japanese girl was into leather and whips herself?
Dr. Balis: So besides for the store, did anything else happen last week?
Ms. Green: Yeah. Actually a very nice thing happened.
Dr. Balis: What is it?
Ms. Green: Martin was asked to join the futurist department at SII. It's part of research and development.
Dr. Balis: Hmm.
Ms. Green: It's a collection of Ph.D.'s who try to predict trends in technology use. I think Martin will do very well there. And he got a nice raise to boot.
Dr. Balis: Very good.
Ms. Green: He'll need a week or two to finish up the project that he's working on right now, and then he'll assume his new position. We'll probably celebrate this weekend, since Kathy wasn't around to do so before.
Dr. Balis: Do you have some specific plans?
Ms. Green: Not really. We might go to the "Exotic Erotic Ball" tomorrow night. Martin has never experienced Halloween in San Francisco. I think he'll enjoy it.
Dr. Balis: Have you ever been to the ball before?
Ms. Green: No. It will be my first time, too. I might have Kathy and Martin on a leash. What do you think?
Dr. Balis: I think it's up to you. I hope you have a good time. Just be careful, Anna.
Ms. Green: You should consider going too, Doctor. You might meet a number of your patients there.
Dr. Balis: Oh?
Ms. Green: I know a few people from SII that are going.
Dr. Balis: I see.
Ms. Green: Our time is up, Doctor. I'll see you next week.
Dr. Balis: All right. Have a good week, Anna.
Ms. Green: You too, Doctor. Goodbye.
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