Transcript of 98th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Anna Green, Thursday, November 12, 1998 at 4:00 pm.

Dr. Balis: Hello, Anna. Please sit...
Ms. Green: Not so loud.
Dr. Balis: Hmm? What's the...
Ms. Green: Quieter, please. Lower your voice.
Dr. Balis: Are you all right?
Ms. Green: That's much better, thank you. I have a very bad headache.
Dr. Balis: Did you take anything for it?
Ms. Green: Advil. I took three things of Advil about one hour ago--and at ten this morning and last night at...
Dr. Balis: Anna, what's going on?
Ms. Green: I have a very bad headache.
Dr. Balis: I got that. Why?
Ms. Green: I've been doing some moonlighting for the police, and it's been hard on my head. God, do you mind turning off the lights?
Dr. Balis: Sure. Are you photophobic?
Ms. Green: I guess. The light just kills my eyes. I've been working in a closet all day with my screen brightness turned down to almost nothing.
Dr. Balis: Hmm. Why didn't you just go home?
Ms. Green: I want at least some appearance of a normal life and some privacy.
Dr. Balis: I see. And the analgesics are not helping?
Ms. Green: No, not really.
Dr. Balis: Are you up for having your session today?
Ms. Green: I'm hoping it will get better. And I don't really want to go home--I'm too tired.
Dr. Balis: Most people prefer being at home when they are not feeling well...
Ms. Green: Most people don't have a young, go-getting, overly eager, leather sporting detective living with them.
Dr. Balis: I see. And when did this happen?
Ms. Green: I guess it was Sunday.
Dr. Balis: You guess?
Ms. Green: They weren't able to find Kathy on their own. And for some reason they think I'm just their guy to do it for them, with a little help of Mister Trevor the Terrible.
Dr. Balis: Trevor being the detective living with you?
Ms. Green: They imported him from somewhere East.
Dr. Balis: I see. And what is it that they want from you?
Ms. Green: I'm to play a girlfriend to this Leather Geek. You'd think that the man never touched leather before in his life. Hmm...
Dr. Balis: Do you want to lie down?
Ms. Green: Yes, thank you.
Dr. Balis: Okay, so Trevor is a detective assigned to Kathy's case, right?
Ms. Green: Yes. We're supposed to go around to all these underground S&M clubs in the city--most I've never even heard of--and gather information on Greg and his minions.
Dr. Balis: Hmm. So the police believe Kathy is with Greg?
Ms. Green: I know she's with him. What the police believe is a total mystery to me; they don't tell me nearly enough for me to do what I do for them.
Dr. Balis: And what is that? What are they asking you to do?
Ms. Green: We are supposed to go around to underground S&M clubs.
Dr. Balis: You said that.
Ms. Green: Yes, well...
Dr. Balis: Can you tell me in a little more detail what it is that the police is asking you to do?
Ms. Green: Last week, they contacted my boss to ask for me to get time off so that I could participate in an investigation.
Dr. Balis: It was nice of them to ask.
Ms. Green: Yeah. They managed to get Mr. Major involved. Can you believe the nerve? They went to the CEO of a large company to ask for an employee's leave of absences, and they did it without asking me first.
Dr. Balis: Hmm.
Ms. Green: So now everyone knows that I'm doing something undercover for the SFPD.
Dr. Balis: I'm sure it wasn't their intention to spread rumors about...
Ms. Green: This is SII we're talking about. We live off rumors. Who has time to have a life outside of the company?
Dr. Balis: Well, you do.
Ms. Green: But to a very limited extent.
Dr. Balis: I guess it's all about how you spend your limited free time...
Ms. Green: Hmm.
Dr. Balis: So everyone in your department knows what?
Ms. Green: Not much, really. They know that I'll be working on a police investigation regarding the disappearance of my ex-roommate.
Dr. Balis: They know that much?
Ms. Green: I had to tell them something.
Dr. Balis: I see. And is Martin involved?
Ms. Green: He said they didn't ask him to do anything. They just want me.
Dr. Balis: Hmm.
Ms. Green: It was kind of sweet--Lloyd came in to see me and asked me if I felt up to this or if I would prefer not to get involved.
Dr. Balis: Hmm.
Ms. Green: He was very concerned for my safety. I told him that I wanted to help, and that if I could assist in getting this case closed or resolved, it would ultimately be in my best interest to do so. He was as nice as could be. He said that I'm a hero for doing this and that he is proud of me. He was so fatherly about the whole thing, but it was nice. I felt like I belonged there and that people cared about me. We ended up going to lunch together--just Lloyd and I. Cool, huh?
Dr. Balis: Very cool.
Ms. Green: I sort of ended up telling him the whole story over coffee and eclairs.
Dr. Balis: I see.
Ms. Green: Lloyd was interested and very sympathetic. So now I can come and go as I please. I still get to work on our project, but my part is somewhat smaller for awhile, hopefully, not for too long.
Dr. Balis: I see. So have you done anything yet?
Ms. Green: Oh, yeah. So far, Trevor and I went to three night clubs...strip clubs...well, they are like a mixture between a strip club and an S&M club.
Dr. Balis: How so?
Ms. Green: Well, people who attend S&M parties are usually regulars. They already know that they are interested in doing this or at least in trying it. And the club events tend to be in people's basements and attics and stuff. The places we've been to are different.
Dr. Balis: Go on.
Ms. Green: They are more commercial in nature.
Dr. Balis: I've always assumed that there were club membership fees and party fees for the S&M clubs that you went to.
Ms. Green: That's true, although some parties are free--when a couple of friends get together...
Dr. Balis: Sure.
Ms. Green: But these places we went to were set up more like regular strip clubs, and they catered to the curious crowd rather than the hardcore S&M group.
Dr. Balis: I see.
Ms. Green: There's very loud music playing all the time, and there're obnoxious DJs acting as hosts and masters of ceremonies.
Dr. Balis: That's the origin on your headache?
Ms. Green: It's so loud. Thank god, it's illegal to smoke in those places now. I swear, if smoking was allowed, I wouldn't be doing it. That would be the last straw.
Dr. Balis: So you don't like doing this?
Ms. Green: No. Not really. Mostly, I just want it to be over with. I don't even care that much what happens to Kathy anymore. If she wants to be Gray's slave, than leave her the fuck alone. It's her life. If she wants to throw it all away like that, then...I sound cruel, don't I?
Dr. Balis: No. I think you've been through a lot yourself. I'll be very happy when all of this is behind you. I think you've assisted this investigation quite enough.
Ms. Green: Me too.
Dr. Balis: And I think all of this is having an effect on your health.
Ms. Green: Yeah. Do you want to know more about these clubs?
Dr. Balis: Sure.
Ms. Green: They are dark with some colored and strobe lights wildly circling the room--another contribution to my splitting headache.
Dr. Balis: Hmm.
Ms. Green: There are usually two stages: one for the male submissives and female dominants, and one for the female submissives and male dominants. There are some same sex acts sprinkled in between, and there are group acts as well.
Dr. Balis: Why is there a division?
Ms. Green: At a regular party, there are multiple scenes going on at once--there's enough material to satisfy the voyeuristic urges and to inspire creativity. But these places are set up differently. The patrons come mostly to watch the shows, although there are private rooms in the back where there is some customer participation activity going on, but on a limited scale.
Dr. Balis: I see.
Ms. Green: These places are more about making money then about like-minded individuals participating in's not like a group of S&M devotees getting together.
Dr. Balis: I understand.
Ms. Green: The customers get to sit around the stage, drink, watch the show, and shovel over tips. If customers want some action themselves, they can request a submissive or a dominant that they like and go in the back for a very, very short time to do whatever.
Dr. Balis: Were you asked to participate in that way by the police?
Ms. Green: No. My job is to pretend that Trevor is my new dominant partner. One time, I had to sit by his feet, through most of the show. That wasn't fun. But when he wants to talk to someone in the back, Trevor usually leaves me and goes alone. As his submissive, I'm not really required to participate that much.
Dr. Balis: Have you seen people you know at these places?
Ms. Green: I saw three of Kathy's customers.
Dr. Balis: Hmm.
Ms. Green: This is just another outlet for these people, and it's cheaper than what Kathy was charging.
Dr. Balis: I see.
Ms. Green: There was this one guy in there. He was in a wheelchair, and he had one of those oxygen tank things. He was breathing though the mask, and he had a male nurse accompany him. He was there when we came in, and he was still there when we left two and a half hours later. He sat right by the stage, and the performers came right up to him and let him smell the burned flesh after the brandings...
Dr. Balis: Hmm.
Ms. Green: He was clearly a regular, and it was very disturbing. It was very disturbing for me. I felt dizzy and started seeing spots in front of my eyes. Trevor literally had to carry me out of there. But no one cared. It was as if this was normal.
Dr. Balis: When was this?
Ms. Green: Tuesday night. I've had a headache ever since.
Dr. Balis: I see. And how many times a week do they expect you to do this?
Ms. Green: I don't know. We did three this week. I'm getting really tired, is it that time yet?
Dr. Balis: Yes, it is. I'm sorry. Go home, Anna. Take care of yourself. And if this is too much for you, you know that you can always say no.
Ms. Green: Right. I'll see you next week, Doctor.
Dr. Balis: Okay. Goodbye, Anna.
Ms. Green: Goodbye.
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