Drawing by Martin of Anna Green

Transcript of 36th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Anna Green, Thursday, April 3, 1997 at 4:00 pm.

Dr. Balis: Hello, Anna.
Ms. Green: Hello, Doctor. You want to see Martin's latest?
Dr. Balis: You mean his drawings?
Ms. Green: Yes. He sent yet another one. This one is quite nice.
Dr. Balis: Let me see.
Ms. Green: Here. It's based on the story I told Martin over the weekend. I can't believe how fast he is.
Dr. Balis: Interesting. You seemed to be turning into a plant in this one. And the head is missing again. You say it's based on a story you told Martin?
Ms. Green: I told him about a science fiction story I read a long time ago. It was from a collection of short stories about alien sex.
Dr. Balis: Interesting. This is Martin's interpretation of the story?
Ms. Green: Well, it doesn't actually have much to do with the story. But it's quite nice.
Dr. Balis: Yes.
Ms. Green: The story was actually about this female plant on a far away planet. Do you what to hear about it, Doctor?
Dr. Balis: Sure.
Ms. Green: I thought it would be the kind of story that Martin would find erotic. Personally, I thought it was a bit strange. But I like that kind of stuff.
Dr. Balis: What made you think that Martin would find it erotic?
Ms. Green: Well, it was about this man who was shipwrecked on a planet with these plants. He got badly hurt during the crash and realized that he was probably going to die. But, if I remember correctly, he heard this telepathic voice and responded to it.
Dr. Balis: Did the man understand the voice?
Ms. Green: No, not at first. But we are getting ahead of the story.
Dr. Balis: Sorry.
Ms. Green: The man realized that the voice was coming from this giant plant pod that was not far from him. This plant pod was trying to communicate with the man. It calmed him down and made him feel good. Something about the plant pod was very sensual and inviting. There were others like it all around. But most were bigger and only this one seemed to be able to move a little. When the pod rolled close to the man, the feeling of well-being increased. The man saw water inside the plant and, on what seemed to be the pod's invitation, crawled inside.
Dr. Balis: How is this story erotic?
Ms. Green: You have no patience, Doctor. Inside, the pod was dark and warm and very moist. The man tasted the liquid secreted by the pod on its inner walls. It was sweet and thick. After a while, the man fell asleep inside the pod. Eventually, he woke up and ate some more. The man's wounds began to heal and he was beginning to feel better. Soon he was even able to communicate with the pod. The man learned that his host was a young female and fairly intelligent although not as far evolved as humans were. She mostly responded to emotions and music.
Dr. Balis: This is a story of a love affair between two species?
Ms. Green: Sort of. The man grew to depend on the pod and even became attached to it emotionally.
Dr. Balis: I'm sorry, Anna. But do you really want to spend our whole session telling me about this story?
Ms. Green: Okay, I'll get to the point. The pod wanted the man to help facilitate its reproduction. It felt the sharp edges of the knife that came with his gear.
Dr. Balis: A knife?
Ms. Green: The thick plant juices dissolved the man's clothes. All he was left with was a knife.
Dr. Balis: What about other metal items like buttons...
Ms. Green: Doctor, you're so literal. Maybe the pod simply spat them out. I don't remember and it's not relevant to this story.
Dr. Balis: Okay.
Ms. Green: The point was that to reproduce and to feel sexual pleasure, the alien plant pod needed to be ripped from the inside with a sharp tool.
Dr. Balis: What about other pods on this planet. Did they have their own crash survivors?
Ms. Green: No, they used animals with sharp teeth and claws. But this particular pod was different. She really cared for the man and realized that he was intelligent too. When she gave birth to her daughters, she let the man help her raise them. In some ways, it was a very touching story--two completely alien intelligences grow to depend on each other for life and friendship.
Dr. Balis: So did the man willingly cut the pod's insides?
Ms. Green: He refused at first. But then he realized that it wasn't about pain, it was about love. When I told this story to Martin, he immediately saw the similarities.
Dr. Balis: The similarities to what? S&M?
Ms. Green: Well, yes. S&M is also about love.
Dr. Balis: Oh?
Ms. Green: Martin tried to describe the feeling that he gets when he is being whipped by his mistress. It's not really about pain. I mean he does feel pain, but it's more about being able to trust someone so completely and to be able to let go to another person.
Dr. Balis: You sound like you are interested in trying it out?
Ms. Green: I told you that I could never do it to Martin until I try it myself.
Dr. Balis: So are you going to ask Martin to whip you?
Ms. Green: I thought about it. But I don't know if Martin could do it. He told me that to really understand the experience, it should be tried with a real top.
Dr. Balis: A top?
Ms. Green: That's what Martin calls it. There's a top and a bottom. Martin's a bottom.
Dr. Balis: I see. The bottom is submissive? Martin wants you to be the top and you don't have much experience.
Ms. Green: I guess.
Dr. Balis: Is Martin telling you to try it with someone else?
Ms. Green: We didn't really talk about that. But I brought it up with Kathy.
Dr. Balis: Kathy's the lady from the adult bookstore, right? Is Kathy into S&M?
Ms. Green: She is a card-holding member. But she said that it's mostly for business. She doesn't do it too often, it's not really her thing.
Dr. Balis: Have you been seeing Kathy a lot lately?
Ms. Green: Just a couple of times. We met on Saturday to go the beach together.
Dr. Balis: Sounds like you are becoming friends.
Ms. Green: I like her. She is very easy to talk to--about any subject, not just S&M. And she is a very nice down-to-earth person despite the fact that she is working in a leather shop.
Dr. Balis: Hmm.
Ms. Green: We took a nice long walk on the beach and I got her up-to-date on Martin and me. It was actually funny.
Dr. Balis: What?
Ms. Green: We saw a couple of her customers on the beach. One even waved hello to us. Kathy told me about what kind of things they shop for. She said that a lot of her customers are not really into S&M--they do pretend and dress-up sessions, but don't actually use the stuff on each other.
Dr. Balis: They just play with whips.
Ms. Green: Right. It's sort of what I would rather do--pretend and act out different scenes, but not actually do it.
Dr. Balis: Then you should tell Martin that. I'm worried that your phone S&M can give Martin a wrong idea about what you actually like--about what turns you on.
Ms. Green: I'm sure Martin knows by now.
Dr. Balis: I'm not.
Ms. Green: I think I try to be very specific. And the picture he sent me this week doesn't have any nails. Not even thorns. There are no whips, just plants. I think he is realizing what I like.
Dr. Balis: I still think that you should try to be explicit. Tell Martin that it's role-playing that turns you on and not physical pain or the infliction of pain. Make sure that he knows that what you like to do is pretend.
Ms. Green: Okay, I'll talk to him. But I'm sure Martin knows this, Doctor.
Dr. Balis: It wouldn't hurt to repeat it then.
Ms. Green: I'll do it, I'll do it.
Dr. Balis: Good. Then I'll see you next week, Anna.
Ms. Green: I'll be here, Doctor.
Dr. Balis: Goodbye, Anna.
Ms. Green: See you soon.
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