Transcript of 51st Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Ms. Anna Green, Thursday, August 7, 1997 at 4:00 pm.

Dr. Balis: Hello, Anna. You look like you're feeling much better. There's a healthy glow about you.
Ms. Green: Thank you, Doctor Balis. I have Martin and Kathy to thank for that.
Dr. Balis: Really?
Ms. Green: Oh, they both took such good care of me, Doctor Balis. I was so sick, and they were my nurses and helpmates and cooks and entertainment all rolled into one glorious...make that two beautiful packages.
Dr. Balis: I'm glad that you have such good friends, Anna.
Ms. Green: Yeah, me too. As you can tell, I completely made up with Kathy. She even stayed with us for a few days over the weekend to help Martin take care of me.
Dr. Balis: All three of you stayed at your apartment?
Ms. Green: Oh no. My place is way too small. But Martin is getting paid big bucks, so his place is really nice; he rented a two bedroom apartment which even has a view of the bay from the kitchen window.
Dr. Balis: Somehow I got the impression that Martin lived with you.
Ms. Green: No way. I'm not ready for that kind of commitment, Doctor. I want to be able to throw the guy out any time I please. I'm not saying I will, but I want to be able to without feeling guilty that he's going to have to live on the street or something, you know?
Dr. Balis: I understand. So you stayed at Martin's.
Ms. Green: Yeah. After I left your office last week, I got home feeling just dreadful. When Martin called that evening, I could hardly talk to him. So he came over and told me that he was taking me away to his place where he could take better care of me. When we arrived, Kathy was there already, wearing an apron, ready to serve me chicken soup. I was so happy to see her, I cried. We both cried--I hate fighting, I just hate it. I couldn't eat the soup--I was too sick. But boy, it was so nice of them. Martin set me up in his bed--he has this giant waterbed. I always thought that those things would be really uncomfortable. But the water inside is heated, so when I got in, it was very nice and cozy.
Dr. Balis: Hmm.
Ms. Green: San Francisco's winter-cold summer nights are hard when you have a cold. The toasty waterbed was just right.
Dr. Balis: And where were Martin and Kathy sleeping?
Ms. Green: Doctor! I'm shocked you would be interested in such details.
Dr. Balis: Sure you are.
Ms. Green: They slept on the sofa-bed in Martin's office--the second bedroom.
Dr. Balis: Both of them?
Ms. Green: Well, neither of them wanted to sleep with me--they could have easily caught my cold.
Dr. Balis: I see.
Ms. Green: Doctor, you have a dirty mind. Just because two people sleep in the same bed doesn't mean that they have to do anything other than sleep, does it?
Dr. Balis: So you were comfortable with those arrangements?
Ms. Green: I thought it was kind of fun.
Dr. Balis: What do you mean?
Ms. Green: Well, they both have a crush on me and...
Dr. Balis: Yes?
Ms. Green: I don't know, it sort of made me feel powerful in a strange kind of way.
Dr. Balis: Can you talk more about that?
Ms. Green: Well--I know this is going to sound very bad--I was basically naked except for a t-shirt that Martin gave me the entire weekend. And I know that both Kathy and Martin were turned on by me--I saw the way they looked at my butt when my t-shirt would pull up a little.
Dr. Balis: Hmm.
Ms. Green: You've seen my butt, Doctor, you know it looks pretty good. And there was also this thing with both Martin and Kathy enjoying the submissive part in the relationship.
Dr. Balis: What do you mean?
Ms. Green: Oh, they both were falling head over heels trying to please me all weekend. They cooked for me, and they cleaned for me, and they read me books. Martin went and got four movies for us to watch together. I felt very pampered. And the nice thing was that I knew that both of them were into serving me--they were getting a kick out of it. So, at night, I imagined that they would both get into bed a bit turned on, but not for each other--for me. I know that this makes me not a very nice person, but it turned me on to know that they both wanted me.
Dr. Balis: Anna, I'm concerned that you're setting up a situation in which...
Ms. Green: I know--I'm the center of attention again. I'm sorry, Doctor, but I really like it. I'm enjoying this a lot.
Dr. Balis: Well, how far do you want to take this, Anna? Are you prepared to enter into a three-way sexual relationship with Martin and Kathy?
Ms. Green: No. But...
Dr. Balis: From what you're telling me, it sounds like you're setting up the ground work which could quite naturally resolve itself into Kathy becoming sexually involved with both you and Martin. If that's not what you want, you'd better be very clear about it, because now Kathy and Martin have very good reasons to believe that you're interested in that kind of arrangement.
Ms. Green: That's silly--I'm not even gay. Why would I want to have a sexual relationship with Kathy?
Dr. Balis: Your relationship with Kathy is already slanted that way--how many people, with whom you didn't have a sexual relationship, have you watched masturbate while lying in the same bed?
Ms. Green: Oh, that again. It wasn't a big deal. And it certainly doesn't imply that we are interested in each other that way.
Dr. Balis: You acknowledged yourself that Kathy is interested and sexually attracted to you.
Ms. Green: Yeah. But I'm not. And Martin is interested in me.
Dr. Balis: Okay. But do you think that Martin might be interested in having a three-way relationship? It's not that uncommon in the S&M community where some members tend not to practice exclusively monogamous sex.
Ms. Green: Hmm. I don't think that Martin would be interested. He tried so hard and for so long to get me that I would be surprised if he would just go ahead and risk it all by getting involved with Kathy. And I think that Kathy cares for me much too much to do something like that, too.
Dr. Balis: But both Martin and Kathy have openly expressed interest in you, Anna.
Ms. Green: Kathy never came out and actually said...
Dr. Balis: Come on, Anna.
Ms. Green: Hmm. Well, I didn't mean to make it seem like I was interested in that sort of thing. I just want us to be good friends.
Dr. Balis: Then you need to make your intentions perfectly clear--no more sleeping in the same bed with both of them. And try to keep your underwear on, unless you mean to seduce someone.
Ms. Green: But I'm comfortable with my body, and so are Kathy and Martin. Should I now get all prudish and insist on wearing clothes in the hot tub, for example?
Dr. Balis: There is being comfortable with one's body, and then there is flirting and setting up sexually explicit situations. Does Kathy get naked in front of Martin?
Ms. Green: Well...
Dr. Balis: Well?
Ms. Green: Kathy always sleeps naked. And she only wore an apron while preparing breakfast. But the rest of the time, she was fully clothed.
Dr. Balis: I see. And Martin?
Ms. Green: Kathy probably saw him naked when he was getting ready to take a shower and then while he was getting dressed.
Dr. Balis: And you don't think that this situation is likely to lead to the three of you sleeping together?
Ms. Green: As I said, I don't think that Kathy and Martin would do it. And for the three-way combination that you're talking about, they'd need my permission, right?
Dr. Balis: And if the circumstances were such that you found yourself in bed with the two of them naked and making out, would you be able to say no and pull the plug?
Ms. Green: I'll make sure that it doesn't go that far.
Dr. Balis: Has it ever been close?
Ms. Green: The closest it's been is when we watched "Henry and June" in bed together.
Dr. Balis: Without underwear?
Ms. Green: Yeah.
Dr. Balis: That's pretty close.
Ms. Green: But that was last weekend when I was very sick. Otherwise we would have watched it in the living room, and I would have been fully clothed--like everyone else. In fact, Martin moved his television into the bedroom just to accommodate me while I was sick. That couldn't happen again--the TV is back in his living room.
Dr. Balis: Oh, that really helps.
Ms. Green: It does.
Dr. Balis: Look, Anna, we're out of time for today. I want you to think about what it is that you really want to do. And try not to lie to yourself--it doesn't work for very long.
Ms. Green: I'll see you next week, Doctor Balis.
Dr. Balis: Goodbye, Anna.
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