Transcript of 3rd Session between Charles Balis, M.D., Ms. Eliza Raven, and Mr. Luke Howard, Tuesday, February 25, 1997 at 12 pm.

Ms. Raven: Good afternoon, dear Doctor.
Dr. Balis: How are you today?
Ms. Raven: Wonderful. I...
Mr. Howard: Hello Doctor Balis. I'm Luke Howard. Sorry I'm late. Hey Lizzy...
Ms. Raven: Luke? What are you doing here?
Dr. Balis: Ms. Raven?
Mr. Howard: I told you I was going to accompany you to a session.
Ms. Raven: Luke, I told you this was a solo project.
Mr. Howard: Liz ...
Ms. Raven: Fine.
Mr. Howard: I just wanted to apologize for my conduct on the phone the other day. I was terribly out of line.
Dr. Balis: You didn't have to do that, Mr. Howard.
Mr. Howard: Yes I did. I just have never had a girl that loves me as much as Lizzy here does, and I got carried away.
Dr. Balis: Apology accepted, Mr. Howard. Well um... Do either of you have anything special you want to talk about while you are both here?
Mr. Howard: Actually yes Dr. Balis. I need you to help me convince Lizzy to go to church.
Dr. Balis: Pardon?
Ms. Raven: What he is referring to is my faith. I'm a solitary practitioner of Wicca.
Mr. Howard: She thinks she's some sort of witch or something.
Ms. Raven: I do not think. I know.
Dr. Balis: Hmm, Wicca. Can you tell me some more about it?
Ms. Raven: As a Wiccan, or witch, I believe in a God and a Goddess. My religion is derived from the old world pagan religions. You know, like Mother Earth and Father Sky.
Dr. Balis: It sounds similar to Native American religious beliefs.
Ms. Raven: Very similar. I practice in the privacy of my own home and live by the code: "Harm None."
Mr. Howard: Dr. Balis, this is all a phase she's going through and she really needs help to get her out of it. I mean, once she goes too far, she'll never come back.
Dr. Balis: How do you think she's going too far?
Mr. Howard: She burns candles for everything! She's always mumbling or chanting something, and her meditation cuts into the time we could be spending together. If she wants to be spiritual, she could come to mass with me on Sunday, but she has to be so belligerent about it!
Dr. Balis: I don't think I understand...
Mr. Howard: What's there not to understand about it! She's practicing a mild form of Satanism right in my mother's home!
Dr. Balis: The two of you are living at your mother's home?
Mr. Howard: Yeah. She's freaking my mom out with all this astral projection crap. Next thing you know, she's going to be summoning demons in my living room and I cannot have that going on! What the hell will my priest say?
Ms. Raven: My spirituality is none of his business, Luke.
Mr. Howard: You shut your mouth right now, Liz!
Ms. Raven: Luke, just go please. Please just go. Go home Luke. I'll talk to you when I come home.
Mr. Howard: See?! Do you see what I mean? She doesn't want the help! She just wants to burden you with her own piddling problems! If she needs someone to talk to, she can come home to the man that loves her!
Ms. Raven: That's not fair Luke! That's not fair at all! Go home! Go home! Go home! Go home!
Dr. Balis: Here. Take this to staunch the blood.
Mr. Howard: I can't leave you like this, Lizzy. You need me here.
Ms. Raven: Go Luke. Go home. Goodbye.
Mr. Howard: I will not leave you here!
Ms. Raven: Go home!
Mr. Howard: You really don't want me here, do you?
Ms. Raven: No. Go home.
Mr. Howard: Fine, I'm leaving. I'll talk to you later. Thank you, Dr. Balis. I hope you can sway her mind. I obviously can't.
Dr. Balis: Eliza?
Ms. Raven: Oh God. Oh God.
Dr. Balis: It's okay to take a few minutes. Just put your head back like this and hold the tissue up. There. I think the bleedings almost stopped now. I'm sorry about that Eliza.
Ms. Raven: No, no, no. It's not your fault. It's mine.
Dr. Balis: It's not your fault. Apparently he surprised you by coming today?
Ms. Raven: We talked about it once and I told him that I would be going alone. He told me that he was going to come with me to this session and I said no. We had a explosive argument, and when he calmed down, he said that he would let me go alone if that was my wish. I said it was. He must not have listened.
Dr. Balis: Is he abusive towards you, Eliza?
Ms. Raven: Like what do you mean?
Dr. Balis: "You shut your mouth right now."
Ms. Raven: He was angry.
Dr. Balis: That's true. Does he always talk to you like that when he's angry?
Ms. Raven: Only when he's mad.
Dr. Balis: How often does he get like that?
Ms. Raven: When I've been acting badly, he gets angry with me.
Dr. Balis: Do you think you were acting badly just now?
Ms. Raven: I don't know. He thought I was.
Dr. Balis: Has he ever hit you?
Ms. Raven: No never. Never never never never.
Dr. Balis: Please don't cry again. We're just talking. Are you going to be all right?
Ms. Raven: I'll be fine...You're thinking I should leave him, aren't you?
Dr. Balis: Do you want to leave him?
Ms. Raven: Sometimes...I don't know. He's not always like that.
Dr. Balis: He seems like a very excitable person.
Ms. Raven: Yes. I guess that's the best way to describe him. His intentions are pure, but...oh. He can drive me crazy because he's so up and at 'em.
Dr. Balis: Hmm...
Ms. Raven: Well. He doesn't beat me and he is very kind. But it can be frustrating living with him because he's so conventional.
Dr. Balis: Hmm.
Ms. Raven: But you don't think I should leave?
Dr. Balis: It's not important what I think. What you think is what's important.
Ms. Raven: I suppose it is.
Dr. Balis: I'm sorry Eliza, but we are out of time here.
Ms. Raven: Yes. I better go home and try to fix things there.
Dr. Balis: I'd like to see you next week if you can make it.
Ms. Raven: That would be fine.
Dr. Balis: Let's make it this same time on Tuesday, that's Tuesday, March 4th at noon, okay?
Ms. Raven: I'll see you then, Doctor Balis.
Dr. Balis: Eliza, if there is ever a problem, call me. Day or night, my service can get a hold of me.
Ms. Raven: Thank you for your concern, Doctor. I'll call you if I'm in trouble.
Dr. Balis: Thank you Eliza. I'm there if you need me. Otherwise, I'll see you next week.
Ms. Raven: Fare thee well, Doctor.
Dr. Balis: Blessed be, Eliza.
Ms. Raven: You know about Wicca?
Dr. Balis: Just a little, Eliza. Goodbye.
Ms. Raven: Goodbye Doctor.
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