Transcript of 40th Session between Charles Balis, M.D. and Mr. Alex Rozzi, Wednesday, April 8, 1998 at 5:00 pm.

Mr. Rozzi: Hey, dude! How's it hanging?
Dr. Balis: Hello, Alex.
Mr. Rozzi: You don't have to say anything. I already feel bad enough. So just don't, okay?
Dr. Balis: Alex?
Mr. Rozzi: Well, you did talk to Marty, didn't you?
Dr. Balis: No, I didn't speak to him. What's going on, Alex?
Mr. Rozzi: You're kidding? You didn't talked to him? Really?
Dr. Balis: No, really, I didn't. What's up?
Mr. Rozzi: Oh. I...uh, shit! Me and my big mouth. Can we just forget I brought this up or something?
Dr. Balis: Alex, I really would like to know what happened.
Mr. Rozzi: I don't really want to talk about it, okay?
Dr. Balis: Alex, if Martin is going to contact me, I'd like to know about it. Tell me what's going on.
Mr. Rozzi:, I don't know how to start, really. It's just...well, I kind of...I sort of got into some trouble last weekend.
Dr. Balis: What sort of trouble?
Mr. Rozzi: Well,, I ended up at Juvenile Hall.
Dr. Balis: What did you do to land yourself there?
Mr. Rozzi: At first, it was a joke. Really. It was a dare. See, I was out with Regina and Camille, and we were at this electronics store. And I don't know what came over me, but I...uh, I got popped for shoplifting.
Dr. Balis: Really? Alex! What made you do that?
Mr. Rozzi: I told you already, it was a dare. I guess. I don't know. It just sort of happened. I was there and the radio was there--all unprotected and stuff. And Regina said to me that I didn't have the guts to do this. And I was like, "I've done shit like this before, it's no big deal." So she just dared me to do it, and...well, the next thing I knew, I was walking out of there with cuffs on. And Regina and Camille were trying to act cool about it. I don't know why I did it, I just did it. And I don't need any more shit about it, so just don't.
Dr. Balis: Alex, I'm very surprised.
Mr. Rozzi: I said don't! Just don't. I already feel bad enough, okay? My mom is furious. Ralph is totally freaking. And Luke is in the dark about all this, but he's mad at me for something else altogether--that's a different story. But I really don't need any more shit about it, okay?
Dr. Balis: Alex, aren't you still on probation?
Mr. Rozzi: Thank you, Doctor! Gee, tell me something I don't already know. Shit! Yes, I am on probation. Satisfied?
Dr. Balis: What's going to happen now?
Mr. Rozzi: What do you mean what's going to happen? I already told you what happened. It's not like I'm proud of myself or anything.
Dr. Balis: And who are these girls you mentioned?
Mr. Rozzi: Regina and Camille? They're a couple of lipstick lesbiterians I met at the Alliance. We paint together, and we party together and...oh shit! My fucking stupid mouth again.
Dr. Balis: A lesbiterian?
Mr. Rozzi: Yeah, you know? A lesbian. They're a couple of real cool lipstick lezzies. Katherine didn't seem very impressed with them when she saw them last Saturday, though. She sort of just looked at them in a weird way. But what can you expect when Regina has everything above her neck pierced? Katherine got the eye from both of them, I noticed that right away. They really liked her. They're funny, though.
Dr. Balis: And you party with them?
Mr. Rozzi: I knew you would grab hold of that. Yeah, we party together. They're a kick in the pants!
Dr. Balis: What exactly do you mean by "partying?" Are you taking drugs, Alex?
Mr. Rozzi: No! No way! Shit! No, I'm not on drugs. I mean not really. We just partake in the gonja sometimes. That's okay, isn't it?
Dr. Balis: You're smoking pot?
Mr. Rozzi: Well, sometimes. We like to do it before we paint, it makes it flow so much better. My creative juices just start totally flowing, you know? It's kind of cool.
Dr. Balis: Alex, I don't advocate the use of recreational drugs for any reason whatsoever.
Mr. Rozzi: Gee! Do you really think that I care what you advocate? I mean, really! It's just a little dope, it's no big deal. It's not like I'm out stealing for drug money or anything.
Dr. Balis: Yes, you are just out stealing.
Mr. Rozzi: Oh, touché, Doctor, touché! That hurt.
Dr. Balis: I'm sorry, Alex, but you don't seem to realize the gravity of the situation you are in. You come here and tell me that you got arrested for shoplifting. Then you tell me that you're using drugs to enhance your artistic endeavors. The warning signs...
Mr. Rozzi: But it's not a problem. Man, you really get worked up about things easy, don't you? I realized the shoplifting thing was a problem the moment I did it. Gosh! Your face got pretty red there. You should prescribe yourself a chill pill or something, you know? So, the second I did it, I knew it was the wrong thing to do. But by then, the wheels were in motion, and I was just doing it. It was as if the entire place started spinning, and my head was rushing. And I was like...I don't know, getting off on it or something.
Dr. Balis: Were you under the influence when you did it?
Mr. Rozzi: Huh?
Dr. Balis: Were you high when you did it?
Mr. Rozzi: No! I don't think so. Um, I don't think I was. I can't remember. That's funny.
Dr. Balis: Not really.
Mr. Rozzi: Man! You're really some kind of old dude sometimes, you know that? It's not like I'm smoking it every minute of every day. I told you, we smoke before we start to paint, and then the whole thing just comes together beautifully.
Dr. Balis: What will be the result of violating your parole?
Mr. Rozzi: I'm not sure yet, and I'm kind of worried about that, too. The store decided not to press charges against me, but that didn't get me off the hook. The only reason the store didn't press charges was because I used my wiles on the woman who runs that place.
Dr. Balis: What do you mean?
Mr. Rozzi: Well, I guess I sort of charmed her. I caught her staring at my crotch a couple times, and then I just turned on the old charm and moved around just so. And the next thing I knew, Marty told me they aren't pressing charges. And I knew it was because I flirted with the old lady, you know? But that still doesn't get me out of the mess I'm in. Marty said the court may decide that I'm an incorrigible and that my mother doesn't have control over me--little do they know that she never did have control over me.
Dr. Balis: What will happen then?
Mr. Rozzi: Well, they could decide to make me a ward of the court or something. But...I mean look at me. Do you think that they would take someone who is almost eighteen and make them a ward of the court?
Dr. Balis: It's hard to say what they may do, Alex.
Mr. Rozzi: Well, there's no way I'm going into some foster home thing. I won't go, and they can't make me. I bet they'll throw it out anyway.
Dr. Balis: Alex, the court will see that you are intelligent enough to understand the consequences of your actions and decisions.
Mr. Rozzi: So what's your point?
Dr. Balis: My point is that you know better, Alex. I know that...
Mr. Rozzi: Look, let's not go there, okay? I really do feel bad about this. I've got to take what's coming to me, I know that. But I'm getting tired of courtrooms, though. So let's talk about something else now, okay? You know that I'll tell you everything when it comes down, so let's drop it for now.
Dr. Balis: Okay. But, Alex, I'm really surprised by you.
Mr. Rozzi: You know, sometimes, I even totally surprise myself. So let's talk about Luke. He's pissed off at me now.
Dr. Balis: Why? Because of the shoplifting?
Mr. Rozzi: No! He doesn't know about that, and I don't plan to tell him. The other night, he and I were getting ready to fool around, and he saw these welt marks on my thighs. First, he was concerned. But then he was pissed and turned totally jealous, especially after he saw the marks on my butt. He thought I was fooling around behind his back or something.
Dr. Balis: Hmm. Where did the welt marks on your legs come from?
Mr. Rozzi: I thought I explained that already. Camille did it.
Dr. Balis: Huh?
Mr. Rozzi: Camille. She did it to me. Those crazy lesbiterians are into a little S&M, and they sort of used me as their whipping boy. It was fun!
Dr. Balis: Their whipping boy? Are you practicing S&M?
Mr. Rozzi: No, I'm not practicing S&M, I just dabbled in it a little. It kind of hurts a little, but it was a real rush, too. The next day, after I played with the girls, I hurt so bad. My butt was raw. But all I could think about was Camille's flogger and what those two did to me. It was like I wanted to go back for more. Those girls are crazy as hell.
Dr. Balis: Hmm. And you met them at the Alliance?
Mr. Rozzi: Yeah, they volunteer there too. They like to paint, and they like to party. They're a lot of fun.
Dr. Balis: Does it bother you that Luke is upset about this?
Mr. Rozzi: Well, I don't know why he needs to be, it's nothing really. It's not like I am having sex with them or anything. I was just having some plain old fun. Somehow, I think I got him to understand that. And maybe next time, he'll come along. But I don't dare tell him about the shoplifting thing, or he'll go off on me big time.
Dr. Balis: You think it's a good idea to keep this secret from him?
Mr. Rozzi: Well, it's better than dealing with his wrath over it. I know he'll never understand this one. It's not like I don't have the money to buy what I stole, so I can't use that excuse, you know?
Dr. Balis: What about the truth?
Mr. Rozzi: He won't understand. You know, this is getting so old so fast. You're really bugging me today, you know that?
Dr. Balis: I'm sorry, Alex. I'm not here to sugar coat things for you.
Mr. Rozzi: Very good, Doctor. I think some of my sharp tongue is wearing off on you. Very good! I know you're not here to sugar coat things for me, I'm not stupid. Jeez! I don't think that Luke would take it well, and I'm just not ready to go there with him. Sue me.
Dr. Balis: Don't you think he'll figure it out when the court doles out your punishment?
Mr. Rozzi: Well, I'm going to wait and see on that. I'll decide what to tell Luke when the time comes. Oh, by the way, guess what I got in the mail the other day? A check. It was from Jake. I guess he realized that having his arm in a sling doesn't give him a license to be a jerk. He wrote another check and mailed it to me. I think he's trying to tell me he's cool with things now.
Dr. Balis: Hmm. Are you going to cash it this time?
Mr. Rozzi: I already did. Actually, I deposited it in my bank account.
Dr. Balis: That's good. It was a nice thing for him to do, Alex. Are you going to go back and talk to him?
Mr. Rozzi: Well, I don't know. With everything that's going on between him and Katherine right now, I think he has a lot of shit to deal with. So I don't want to bother him. Maybe I'll call him or something. I got to go now. I'm meeting Mark. We are going to get measured for our tuxedos for the wedding. We are out of time, aren't we?
Dr. Balis: We are. I'll see you next week, Alex.
Mr. Rozzi: Okay, man, later on!
Dr. Balis: And please, Alex, stay out of trouble.
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